There are actually some benefits of doing weblogging right within a wiki tool. (1) a weblog entry can easily generate a wiki page; (2) from a wiki page you can use Backlinks to find the associated weblog entries. Plus (3) everything's in 1 place. Downside: don't get some weblog-specific tools (e.g.
NewsAggregator,
RSS)
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BillSeitz
It may be cool to allow
RadioUserLand users to attach Wiki pages to their weblogs, and have these pages automatically downstreamed to their desktop web site (just as blog entries are upstreamed). Now when you are away from your desktop machine you can still update your site (and you get a comment system for free).
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EhudLamm - 05 Apr 2002
On
MeatballWiki, a number of us have online diaries and various slough pages where we dump random ideas. Occasionally material from these moves to more mainstream pages, possibly at the hands of someone else. I personally like it when people edit my diary.
I don't see why it has to be much more complicated than that. Why pull out the propellor beanie when all you want is a chronology. That is, unless you wanted some sort of post-hoc structured parsing like
RSS generation. Even
RSS isn't too hard to hack into something like an online diary if you are clever about it. For instance, you could wrap each diary entry with a
tag. The server can then timestamp the diary entry
This is my diary.
Personally, I'm not too fond of that solution because it's too programmer-oriented. The
MeatBall:WikiSyntax is getting to look too much like code when it's supposed to look more like English. I don't even like the syntax on this page (in TWiki). But the point is that there are things that could be done if you're sufficiently clever. --
SunirShah
[jammed in the middle, but relevant to meatballwiki] I have some bodges for
MeatballWiki to allow me to use it as a comments interface for my
MovableType blog. The MT blog generates 'raw' post files that are then included on the fly in the wiki. Any wikipage called LE3332 acquires the original text from post 3332 of the blog. The naming bit sucks, but since I don't use headlines/titles very consistently, it seemed the only way. I like this way of adding comments simply because Wikis tend to bring old content back to life in a way that the linear structure of blogs doesn't really allow. That said, I still haven't actually added it on the 'live' version of my page :) Here's an rough example though:
http://wikiwiki.thingy.com/cgi-bin/wiki?LE001456 --
HowardJones - 11th Mar 2003
I've put together a Zope product to add a weblog interface to a ZWiki. It's at
http://www.zope.org/Members/karl/BlogFace/BlogFace, and there's an demo at
http://viii.dclxvi.org/demo/wikiblog/blog.
-- Karl Anderson - 07 May 2002
The
MoinMoin +
BlogEdit wiki-weblog solution is a good example of what Sunir is talking about ("too much code"). E.g. Potlatch's
LoveBlog. My preferred solution would be even more all-in-one than Bill's. I want to see a weblog that is made up of a normally-named wiki pages internally transcluded to the weblog page. This allows things like having literally the same weblog entry in more than one weblog.
PikiePikie? 0.5 does
InternalTransclusion? so i will be able to start klugeing with this soon. --
JohnAbbe
SnipSnap is a wikilog written in Java, inspried by Vanilla. It's worth a look. --
GoofRider? (Jeffrey Chan) 2002-10-29
I modified (with
DeanGoodmanson? help)
BillSeitz's
ZwikiWeblog? to allow adding weblog entries to multiple wikipages (in the same wiki and in the
ParentWiki? if you post from a
PersonalSubWiki?) in my
NooWikiWeblog -
FlorianKonnertz, 02-12
Integrate any wiki and weblog by having the weblog support "post by e-mail" and the wiki support "subscribe to all page changes" and having the weblog subscribe to the wiki. This has been done at
http://www.andrewsw.com/wiki/moin.cgi/WikiBlogIntegration and has no downside as far as blog features go, but isn't exactly totally seemless integration -- Andrew Chen, 2003-03-01
Stumbled on another wikilog solution,
Antville, written in Javascript on top of a Java framework called Helma. It's bsically a weblog with wiki syntax. Lots of macros, appears quite customizable. --
GoofRider? (Jeffrey Chan) 2003-03-09
JSPWiki also has a rudimentary wiki-weblog integration. Each weblog entry is its own page, and pages are then aggregated by a plugin. --
JanneJalkanen?, 2003-03-11
