Comments on: Improving my Delicious command for Ubiquity

By: l.m.orchard

l.m.orchard — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:25:58 +0000

Auto-generating tags via Yahoo Pipes is a neat trick, but it’s unfortunately very much frowned upon by delicious. Not that anything negative will happen to you, but it defeats the purpose of tagging altogether.

Try searching for “Lazy Sheep Bookmarklet” and possibly read:

http://www.mail-archive.com/ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com/msg00853.html

In particular – “People add metadata so that 1) they can find things and 2) other people can find things. You are removing the step in which people add the tag metadata, thus making the system less valuable to themselves and others.”

The key word repeated there is “people”

By: http://dy-verse.blogspot.com/

http://dy-verse.blogspot.com/ — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:50:43 +0000

Here is a share-to-delicious ubiquity command that automatically generates tags using YAHOO pipes. It also uses the text selected on the page as notes and the page title as the title of the article.

http://gist.github.com/26425

By: Simply extending the browser « chimney

Simply extending the browser « chimney — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:43:24 +0000

[...] your extension and use it immediately without restarting the browser. You can even write extensions that use XUL (accessed through statusbar icons, toolbars, sidebars, etc.) like Leslie Orchard has [...]

By: l.m.orchard

l.m.orchard — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:28 +0000

@Tony: Actually, commands are just one of the goals of Ubiquity. Easier XUL hacking, ala Greasemonkey, is another goal, albeit under-explored so far.

By: Tony

Tony — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:12:52 +0000

Not a big fan of things adding stuff my status bar. :/ Ubiquity commands should just focus on Ubiquity, not XUL changes in Firefox.

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:40:39 +0000

Hello,

I was wondering if there was any chance you could put together a post annotating/explaining the changes/additions to your improved Delicious command. In particular, some explanations of the code dealing with the statusbar would be helpful for us beginners. Thanks.

Frank

By: l.m.orchard

l.m.orchard — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:30:06 +0000

Huh, weird - that's exactly how I use the command:

sha quoted this tagged foo bar baz

One major difference, though, is that I'm using a bleeding edge checkout of the Ubiquity extension. I wonder if there's a bug in the parser for the last release. :(

The definition of the modifiers is pretty simple, so there's not a whole lot of debugging I can do in the command itself. Ugh.

Oh, and also: RIght now it's either plain notes or quoted notes. Presence of the quoted modifier clobbers plain notes. But, how that I think about it I wonder if I should make those work together.

By: Jack Mottram

Jack Mottram — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:11:59 +0000

And of course I worked it out immediately after leaving that comment:

sha tagged test monkey whatever quoted this

works just fine (but feels the wrong way around to be tagging before quoting). And now I can't work out how to quote and note, so to speak. I tried adding

noted These are my comments on what I just quoted

but it doesn't work, it puts 'noted These are my &c.' inside the quotes...

(I should say, despite all this moaning, I really have been enjoying using the command - it's very slick compared to the official add-on.)

By: Jack Mottram

Jack Mottram — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:04:12 +0000

I'm a weirdo too, and now I can't quite work out how to get quotes around stuff I'm quoting from a page. I assumed this would work:

sha this quoted

but it just adds the word 'quoted' to the end of the quoted text, without quotes.

Similarly:

sha quoted this tagged test

adds the words 'tagged' and 'test' to the end of the quoted text, though this time everything _is_ in quotes. (So it seems I can get quotes, but lose the ability to tag in the process.)

sha this quoted text

puts the word 'text' in quotes, but drops the selected text...

So, I give up - what's the secret to getting quotes around quoted text?!

By: l.m.orchard

l.m.orchard — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:44:59 +0000

@Jeton: Actually, I just made a check-in that flips it around. There’s now a “quoted” modifier to wrap the notes in quotes, leaving it unquoted otherwise. I might be the weirdo here in my quote usage :)

By: l.m.orchard

l.m.orchard — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:41:20 +0000

@Jeton: I guess the quoted thing is something I do by habit, to discriminate between what's my comment and what's summary straight from the page. One way you can force it unquoted is with the "noted" modifier. So, select some text on the page, and you can do something like:

sha noted this tagged foo bar baz

That should use the selected text without quotes. Also, you can just type arbitrary stuff:

sha noted These are notes entitled A title goes here tagged foo bar baz

By: Jeton

Jeton — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:20:09 +0000

One question: Is there a chance to remove the quotation marks (i meant the same on the above comment as well, not brackets) when saving a note about a bookmark?

Everytime i bookmark a page via this command, it quotes the note.

By: Jeton

Jeton — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:56:43 +0000

Well, i was having problems understanding the "tagged" and "entitled". Didn't knew it was without brackets....

But i gotta say, it actually replaces the delicious firefox extension for its easy way of posting links on delicious.

Well done, and seeing that it's only the begining i don't doubt that it will improve much more!

Oh, and i had a WTF when i first saw that delicous icon on the status bar of Firefox. Didn't knew it was from your command ;)

Thanks for making this.

By: Abimanyu Raja

Abimanyu Raja — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:55:52 +0000

I disagree… Your command doesn’t fit on that list. It’s way too good for that list. :)

By: Gen Kanai

Gen Kanai — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:10:39 +0000

Les, you may want to let R/RW know about your new command.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_ultimate_list_of_custom_ubiquity_verbs.php