Comments on: Back to NewsRiver, and hacking lists of Reading Lists http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists It's all spinning wheels and self-doubt until the first pot of coffee. Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-hemorrhage hourly 1 By: 0xDECAFBAD » good gregarius http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-33119 0xDECAFBAD » good gregarius Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:44:21 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-33119 <p>[...] Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « avataractual [...]</p> [...] Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « avataractual [...]

]]> By: l.m.orchard http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-11960 l.m.orchard Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:57:39 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-11960 <p>Yeah, I get weird characters - I keep meaning to look into that, having something to do with character encoding in various forms. I also accidentally trigger OPML Editor's macros in item titles that have double quotes.</p> <p>Not sure what you mean about the closed widget - like, have the items under a feed rolled up and hidden by default? I think that's something on my TODO list as a per-feed and an overall config option... not too hard to do - since it's just swapping one CSS class name for another in the feed's on page UL/LI element - but not an option yet.</p> <p>As for the open source thing... Actually, at this point, the whole OPML Editor and NewsRiver rig is open source from end to end. You can get the Frontier source from the OSS project, which builds as the OPML Editor with a switch in XCode on OS X - I think the Windows situation is similar. And, the source of NewsRiver is perusable from within the OPML Editor itself.</p> <p>But as for mentality, no Dave hasn't really done the whole SourceForge, mailing list, OSS team thing for his projects like newsRiver. I don't figure he relishes the annoyances and tip-toeing around egos that'd take, versus just noodling on his neat projects. It's not too hard for me to build something like decafbadNewsRiver independently from his work, though, which is very nice and actually facilitated by how he's built things.</p> Yeah, I get weird characters - I keep meaning to look into that, having something to do with character encoding in various forms. I also accidentally trigger OPML Editor’s macros in item titles that have double quotes.

Not sure what you mean about the closed widget - like, have the items under a feed rolled up and hidden by default? I think that’s something on my TODO list as a per-feed and an overall config option… not too hard to do - since it’s just swapping one CSS class name for another in the feed’s on page UL/LI element - but not an option yet.

As for the open source thing… Actually, at this point, the whole OPML Editor and NewsRiver rig is open source from end to end. You can get the Frontier source from the OSS project, which builds as the OPML Editor with a switch in XCode on OS X - I think the Windows situation is similar. And, the source of NewsRiver is perusable from within the OPML Editor itself.

But as for mentality, no Dave hasn’t really done the whole SourceForge, mailing list, OSS team thing for his projects like newsRiver. I don’t figure he relishes the annoyances and tip-toeing around egos that’d take, versus just noodling on his neat projects. It’s not too hard for me to build something like decafbadNewsRiver independently from his work, though, which is very nice and actually facilitated by how he’s built things.

]]> By: McD http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-11862 McD Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:38:20 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/05/12/back-to-newsriver-and-hacking-lists-of-reading-lists#comment-11862 <p>les,</p> <p>I love the newRiver code... Do you get odd characters in the text feeds in lieu of single quotes and such. That's pretty annoying.</p> <p>I'd love to see the feeds come up with the "view posts" widget closed by default. Is that a simple hack to the default behavior? Then I could just see which bloggers have updated and view the titles of that blogger and hit the view all option.</p> <p>I appreciate you sharing the code... too bad Winer doesn't open the source to more developers. Users are being forced to integrate changes themselves. dave hasn;t made the shift to an open source mentality and process and he probably won't. He simply won't scale with the current model and he'll likely loose adopters as a result.</p> les,

I love the newRiver code… Do you get odd characters in the text feeds in lieu of single quotes and such. That’s pretty annoying.

I’d love to see the feeds come up with the “view posts” widget closed by default. Is that a simple hack to the default behavior? Then I could just see which bloggers have updated and view the titles of that blogger and hit the view all option.

I appreciate you sharing the code… too bad Winer doesn’t open the source to more developers. Users are being forced to integrate changes themselves. dave hasn;t made the shift to an open source mentality and process and he probably won’t. He simply won’t scale with the current model and he’ll likely loose adopters as a result.

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