Comments on: Mochi’s Basic http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/12/09/mochis-basic It's all spinning wheels and self-doubt until the first pot of coffee. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:26:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3-9771 hourly 1 By: Roger Benningfield http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/12/09/mochis-basic/comment-page-1#comment-3202 Roger Benningfield Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:00:00 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/?p=792#comment-3202 <p>re: Simon's BASIC</p> <p>Yeah, but you have no idea how many times I typed "center" when it wanted "centre" and "color" when it wanted "colour".</p> <p>Had the same problems years later with STOS and GFA on my ST, and AMOS on the Amiga.</p> re: Simon’s BASIC

Yeah, but you have no idea how many times I typed “center” when it wanted “centre” and “color” when it wanted “colour”.

Had the same problems years later with STOS and GFA on my ST, and AMOS on the Amiga.

]]> By: l.m.orchard http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/12/09/mochis-basic/comment-page-1#comment-3141 l.m.orchard Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:09:46 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/?p=792#comment-3141 <p>@Dean: Well, the "packed" MochiKit single-include is 90K... gzip'ed, it's about 24K, which I hope would be the relevant number if mod_gzip is in use. Though the point is a good one: MochiKit-based sites certainly won't be winning the 5k page competition.</p> <p>@Matt: Actually, MochiKit <em>is</em> pretty modularized-- if you're not using the "packed" version. Each module (ie. Async, Base, Color, DOM, etc...) has a check right at the top to ensure that what it needs is available. Async, for example, only requires Base-- it doesn't need Visual or LoggingPane.</p> @Dean: Well, the “packed” MochiKit single-include is 90K… gzip’ed, it’s about 24K, which I hope would be the relevant number if mod_gzip is in use. Though the point is a good one: MochiKit-based sites certainly won’t be winning the 5k page competition.

@Matt: Actually, MochiKit is pretty modularized– if you’re not using the “packed” version. Each module (ie. Async, Base, Color, DOM, etc…) has a check right at the top to ensure that what it needs is available. Async, for example, only requires Base– it doesn’t need Visual or LoggingPane.

]]> By: Matt Brubeck http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/12/09/mochis-basic/comment-page-1#comment-3140 Matt Brubeck Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:24:13 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/?p=792#comment-3140 <p>That's why JavaScript libraries really need to be highly modular, with minimal dependency chains. It should be as easy as possible for me to use MochiKit.Async without loading any unnecessary code like MochiKit.Visual or MochiKit.LoggingPane.</p> That’s why JavaScript libraries really need to be highly modular, with minimal dependency chains. It should be as easy as possible for me to use MochiKit.Async without loading any unnecessary code like MochiKit.Visual or MochiKit.LoggingPane.

]]> By: Dean Edwards http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/12/09/mochis-basic/comment-page-1#comment-3134 Dean Edwards Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:05:25 +0000 http://decafbad.com/blog/?p=792#comment-3134 <p>It's a big overhead for a normal web page though. The compressed library is 90K.</p> It’s a big overhead for a normal web page though. The compressed library is 90K.

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