Comments on: Further quick thoughts on GreaseMonkey http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey It's all spinning wheels and self-doubt until the first pot of coffee. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:47:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-hemorrhage hourly 1 By: Jeremy Dunck http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1660 Jeremy Dunck Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1660 <p>Regarding reusable framework.. Dood, think shell scripts for the web.</p> <p>Also, if you want dependency management, you're likely to have better luck creating an extension, like jslib (http://jslib.mozdev.org/ ).</p> <p>On Third Voice bit, Simon Willison and Aaron Boodman are both tinkering in this area.</p> <p>On decoder ring, you mean where 2 users would share a key, or do u mean persisting encoded values? </p> <p>On book redirect... too evil. ;)</p> Regarding reusable framework.. Dood, think shell scripts for the web.

Also, if you want dependency management, you’re likely to have better luck creating an extension, like jslib (http://jslib.mozdev.org/ ).

On Third Voice bit, Simon Willison and Aaron Boodman are both tinkering in this area.

On decoder ring, you mean where 2 users would share a key, or do u mean persisting encoded values?

On book redirect… too evil. ;)

]]> By: l.m. orchard http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1661 l.m. orchard Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1661 <p>Jeremy: Hey, I've been known to amass large libraries of functions for shell scripts too. :) But that's not so much a framework as a module, which is what I was really doing. But I suspect I will start getting sucked into actual extension development.</p> <p>As for the decoder ring, I was really just thinking of something silly with ROT13 for spoilers to movies & etc... but a shared key secret spy ring would be nifty.</p> Jeremy: Hey, I’ve been known to amass large libraries of functions for shell scripts too. :) But that’s not so much a framework as a module, which is what I was really doing. But I suspect I will start getting sucked into actual extension development.

As for the decoder ring, I was really just thinking of something silly with ROT13 for spoilers to movies & etc… but a shared key secret spy ring would be nifty.

]]> By: Aristotle Pagaltzis http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1662 Aristotle Pagaltzis Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1662 <p>Check out the <a href="http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/24112">JSAN howto/proposal</a>.</p> <p>That is <em>big</em> stuff right there. I've seen a few other posts by other people since that one was written which indicate that there's motion. Not much of it seems visible yet though.</p> Check out the JSAN howto/proposal.

That is big stuff right there. I’ve seen a few other posts by other people since that one was written which indicate that there’s motion. Not much of it seems visible yet though.

]]> By: Joe Grossberg http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1663 Joe Grossberg Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1663 <p>"Can I just say how nice it is to not worry about other browsers when coding?"</p> <p>It's like the <em>moral</em> way to experience that thrill.</p> <p>Plus, it's simpler than an Extension (never underestimate the major impact of making something slightly easier) and you get to apply it to someone else's site.</p> “Can I just say how nice it is to not worry about other browsers when coding?”

It’s like the moral way to experience that thrill.

Plus, it’s simpler than an Extension (never underestimate the major impact of making something slightly easier) and you get to apply it to someone else’s site.

]]> By: Phil Ringnalda http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1664 Phil Ringnalda Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1664 <p>Unfortunately, you only really get to enjoy one-browser coding if you are doing a script for yourself; otherwise, you'll have that nagging feeling that you should be careful to keep it usable as an Opera 8 User JavaScript, and as a Trixie script, and as a Turnabout script, and ...</p> <p>Extensions, though, you're really single browser (or slightly more, if you support Seamonkey too), and with chrome privileges you can do whatever you want.</p> Unfortunately, you only really get to enjoy one-browser coding if you are doing a script for yourself; otherwise, you’ll have that nagging feeling that you should be careful to keep it usable as an Opera 8 User JavaScript, and as a Trixie script, and as a Turnabout script, and …

Extensions, though, you’re really single browser (or slightly more, if you support Seamonkey too), and with chrome privileges you can do whatever you want.

]]> By: Jeremy Dunck http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/06/08/further-greasemonkey#comment-1665 Jeremy Dunck Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=646#comment-1665 <p>I've said it before, and I'll say again: I think single-browser user scripts are not the evil that single-browser sites are. The browser user is in control of their browser and their user scripts. They can port a script meant for another browser if they like. The script author does not owe that consideration.</p> <p>Of course, do it where it makes sense and isn't painful...</p> I’ve said it before, and I’ll say again: I think single-browser user scripts are not the evil that single-browser sites are. The browser user is in control of their browser and their user scripts. They can port a script meant for another browser if they like. The script author does not owe that consideration.

Of course, do it where it makes sense and isn’t painful…

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