Comments on: Seeking Out Opposites http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites It's all spinning wheels and self-doubt until the first pot of coffee. Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:40:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-hemorrhage hourly 1 By: 0xDECAFBAD » Greatest Hits Vol. 2, the Babble Bits http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-348886 0xDECAFBAD » Greatest Hits Vol. 2, the Babble Bits Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:29:35 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-348886 <p>[...] Oct 16: Seeking Out Opposites Another way to keep forcing brain expansion. Delicious.BlogBadge.register('badge-1088', [...]</p> [...] Oct 16: Seeking Out Opposites Another way to keep forcing brain expansion. Delicious.BlogBadge.register('badge-1088', [...]

]]> By: Dan Weeks http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1088 Dan Weeks Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1088 <p>In a group of friends we keep a list of these things. Some of the technolgy ones are:</p> <ol> <li>Windows vs. Unix</li> <li>Linux vs. BSD</li> <li>Emacs vs. the unmentionable one (vi)</li> <li>Fortran vs. C/C++</li> <li>Perl vs. Python</li> <li>LaTeX vs. Word or Framemaker</li> <li>Steered Code (via scripts) vs. Not</li> </ol> <p>Then there are even pronunciations of some products that de-evolve into holy wars:</p> <ol> <li>Pronunciation: b. .gif: Gif vs. Jif d. LaTeX: lah-TEK vs. LAH-tek vs. LAY-tex e. data: DAH-tah vs. DAY-tah</li> </ol> <p>I look forward to more information from you on this and seeing what you find.</p> In a group of friends we keep a list of these things. Some of the technolgy ones are:

  1. Windows vs. Unix
  2. Linux vs. BSD
  3. Emacs vs. the unmentionable one (vi)
  4. Fortran vs. C/C++
  5. Perl vs. Python
  6. LaTeX vs. Word or Framemaker
  7. Steered Code (via scripts) vs. Not

Then there are even pronunciations of some products that de-evolve into holy wars:

  1. Pronunciation:
    b. .gif: Gif vs. Jif
    d. LaTeX: lah-TEK vs. LAH-tek vs. LAY-tex
    e. data: DAH-tah vs. DAY-tah

I look forward to more information from you on this and seeing what you find.

]]> By: Moss Collum http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1089 Moss Collum Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1089 <p>Static vs. dynamic typing, and its cousin, compiled vs. interpreted languages, seem like big interesting ones. More trivially, tabs vs. spaces.</p> <p>Also, if you want to find more holy wars than you ever dreamed possible, you could always try searching Wiki for Vs.</p> Static vs. dynamic typing, and its cousin, compiled vs. interpreted languages, seem like big interesting ones. More trivially, tabs vs. spaces.

Also, if you want to find more holy wars than you ever dreamed possible, you could always try searching Wiki for Vs.

]]> By: caiuschen http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1090 caiuschen Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1090 <p>I would say that even more intense than Perl vs. Python is Ruby vs. Python.</p> I would say that even more intense than Perl vs. Python is Ruby vs. Python.

]]> By: Joe Grossberg http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1091 Joe Grossberg Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1091 <p>Here are a few:</p> <ul> <li>IDE vs. multiple tools</li> <li>HTML vs. Flash MX (or Java Applets, I suppose)</li> <li>learning an existing tool or writing your own</li> </ul> <p>I also find that some tools are cool to know, because in a narrow set of uses, they're fscking awesome: * Expect (for use in automating some cron scripts) * awk (for piping through output) * ANSI color codes for making output more readable</p> <p>Plus there are great add-ons to the software you already use: * various emacs modes and tools (recentf is killer) * CPAN modules you might not have known about * list comprehensions and the <strong>foo</strong>() methods you can override in python</p> Here are a few:

  • IDE vs. multiple tools
  • HTML vs. Flash MX (or Java Applets, I suppose)
  • learning an existing tool or writing your own

I also find that some tools are cool to know, because in a narrow set of uses, they're fscking awesome:
* Expect (for use in automating some cron scripts)
* awk (for piping through output)
* ANSI color codes for making output more readable

Plus there are great add-ons to the software you already use:
* various emacs modes and tools (recentf is killer)
* CPAN modules you might not have known about
* list comprehensions and the foo() methods you can override in python

]]> By: Julia http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1092 Julia Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1092 <p>I'm not a programmer, I'm more of a user (software, not people), so I think of MSWord vs. WordPerfect (in the old, pre-Corel days) and for that matter, CorelDraw vs. everything else in the mid-90's. Ok, but what struck me was not the holy war per se, but the pursuit. I just read "Zen and the art of motorcycle maint." and you both seem to be on the same path, looking for Quality (capital Q, specifically) in life, in work, in everything. I support you in your quest!</p> I'm not a programmer, I'm more of a user (software, not people), so I think of MSWord vs. WordPerfect (in the old, pre-Corel days) and for that matter, CorelDraw vs. everything else in the mid-90's. Ok, but what struck me was not the holy war per se, but the pursuit. I just read "Zen and the art of motorcycle maint." and you both seem to be on the same path, looking for Quality (capital Q, specifically) in life, in work, in everything. I support you in your quest!

]]> By: Eric Hancock http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1093 Eric Hancock Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1093 <p>Trying to solve the same problem with different languages can be enlightening. It requires that you bend your mind enough to understand, not syntax, but how things are done in different languages.</p> <p>Have you looked at Objective C?</p> Trying to solve the same problem with different languages can be enlightening. It requires that you bend your mind enough to understand, not syntax, but how things are done in different languages.

Have you looked at Objective C?

]]> By: Ralph Richard Cook http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1094 Ralph Richard Cook Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1094 <p>If you're looking for a holy war that makes no sense to someone on the outside of it, try Common Lisp vs. Scheme.</p> If you're looking for a holy war that makes no sense to someone on the outside of it, try Common Lisp vs. Scheme.

]]> By: Gahlord Dewald http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1095 Gahlord Dewald Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1095 <p>CSS-based web design coding vs Table-based web design coding Jakob Nielsen vs Joshua Davis Actionscript 1.0 vs Actionscript 2.0</p> CSS-based web design coding vs Table-based web design coding
Jakob Nielsen vs Joshua Davis
Actionscript 1.0 vs Actionscript 2.0

]]> By: Chris http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1096 Chris Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1096 <p>RSS 1.0 vs. RSS 2.0</p> <p>This is a great one because: --the RSS 1.0 geeks' argument was based almost entirely in the purported benefits of the One True Way to the poor simple reg'lar non-geeks what'll never understand them goshdarn namespaces --the entire thing actually seemed to be entirely about whether Mr. Winer was, in fact, insufferable and whether O'Reilly is Publisher of Cute-Covered Geekbooks or Cabal Bent on World Domination</p> RSS 1.0 vs. RSS 2.0

This is a great one because:
--the RSS 1.0 geeks' argument was based almost entirely in the purported benefits of the One True Way to the poor simple reg'lar non-geeks what'll never understand them goshdarn namespaces
--the entire thing actually seemed to be entirely about whether Mr. Winer was, in fact, insufferable and whether O'Reilly is Publisher of Cute-Covered Geekbooks or Cabal Bent on World Domination

]]> By: Software will save us http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1097 Software will save us Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1097 <p><strong>In praise of 0xDECAFBAD</strong></p> <p>Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...</p> In praise of 0xDECAFBAD

Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...

]]> By: Software will save us http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1098 Software will save us Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1098 <p><strong>In praise of 0xDECAFBAD</strong></p> <p>Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...</p> In praise of 0xDECAFBAD

Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...

]]> By: Software will save us http://decafbad.com/blog/2003/10/16/seeing-out-opposites#comment-1099 Software will save us Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.decafbad.com/blog/?p=497#comment-1099 <p><strong>In praise of 0xDECAFBAD</strong></p> <p>Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...</p> In praise of 0xDECAFBAD

Do you know the situation when your mind circles around a particular idea for a long time and suddenly you have it all in front of you, written down in clear English, by someone who isn't you? For me one...

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