How to make a multi-platform monster

So I’m thinking that I might prematurely release some code before the week is out, so anyone who’s interested can point and laugh at my PersonalWebProxy exploits – this time in Java.

One thing that disturbs me a bit about this thing so far is that, for what I have in mind, I’ll have built a mini-OS when all is said and done. It’ll have a web server, a web proxy, telnet-able shell, scripting languages, scheduler, full text search and index engine, persistence & metadata storage, and whatever else I can eventually think to toss in. There are just so many nice toys for Java, and most are a snap to glue together. But, I can’t really use any of the toys that come with the OS itself.

It’s something I’ve rambled on about before, as has Jon Udell in his old Byte column: Zope Lessons Learned. If this thing is to run on more than one platform, it can’t rely on the facilities of any particular platform. So, all these lovely things I like OS X for are somewhat off limits.

On the other hand, if I get tired of doing this thing in Java, I could always just finally embrace the platform and go straight for Cocoa. :) Yes, that would make for 3 environments tried, but hey – it’s still fun for me!

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4 Comments

  1. Posted January 28, 2003 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

    Not wanting to suggest feature drift/bloat or anything, but a mail proxy would be nice too…

  2. Posted January 28, 2003 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I need to rename this project and stop referring to it as a Personal Web Proxy, though that’s the first goal. I want it to be a personal agent platform when it grows up, so a mail proxy would fall under that.

    But, for now, one protocol at a time for me :)

  3. Posted January 28, 2003 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    “If this thing is to run on more than one platform, it can’t rely on the facilities of any particular platform. So, all these lovely things I like OS X for are somewhat off limits.”

    Well… not necessarily… Taking another “monster” as an example, ZOE interacts with core Mac OS X services even if it’s written in Java and cross-platform…

    As somebody green famously said:

    “Software are like onions.”
    “Layers! Onions have layers. Software have layers. Onions have layers. You get it? We both have layers.”
    – Shrek, 2001

    ZOE integrates with Apple’s system services. It uses Rendezvous directly. Integrates with Apple’s Mail.app. And even the Finder itself.

    So, not everything is lost ;-)

    Z.

  4. Posted January 29, 2003 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    Why not used Twisted?

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